Macy Gray has been accused of transphobia after an appearance on Piers Morgan Uncensored .
Host Piers Morgan asked the singer on Monday (4 July) for her definition of ‘woman’, and Gray replied that it was a “human being with boobs” and a “vagina” for a “start”.
Macy Gray said she believed that people sharing their pronouns, which she referred to as the “he/she/they”, is “getting confusing”.
Morgan brought up the debate of trans people competing in sports – saying he “supports all trans [people's] rights to fairness and equality” – but not the right of trans women to compete in women’s sports. Gray agreed with both points.
“I totally agree,” Gray said. “And I will say this, and everyone’s gonna hate me but as a woman, just because you go change your [body] parts, doesn’t make you a woman, sorry.”
The singer said she knew this “for a fact”, but she said that she will respect trans women’s pronouns despite not believing they are women.
“Like if you want me to call you a ‘her’, I will cause that’s what you want, but that doesn’t make you a woman just ‘cause I call you a ‘her’ and just because you got a surgery,” Macy Gray said.
Gray said, in her view, “[cis] women go through completely unique experiences” that cannot be replicated by “surgery” or “finding yourself”.
She added that she doesn't think she should be “called transphobic” for her trans-exclusionary views, arguing she was “just saying what it is”.
However, many argued Gray's words were in fact “transphobic”.
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Some likened Gray's words to comments by Bette Midler, who claimed “women” are being “erased” by trans-inclusive language, on the same day.
Midler roped in trans rights in a rant about the Supreme Court’s recent decision to overturn Roe v Wade on Twitter. The Hocus Pocus star claimed women are being “stripped” of their “rights” over their “bodies”, “lives” and even name.
“They don’t call us ‘women’ anymore: they call us ‘birthing people’ or ‘menstruators’, and even ‘people with vaginas’!” Midler wrote . “Don’t let them erase you! Every human on earth owes you!”
Fans across the board were dismayed Midler would parrot anti-trans dog whistles, and more urged the actor to educate herself and reconsider her remarks.
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